Belongs in F&I.

Also, butthurt.

Don't talk to yourself, it's a sign of insanity. :P

How about we do it for posters that have consistently proved they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about instead?

Ok, how about, since this a suggestion for a feature to be added to the game, it belongs on Features and Ideas, not GD?

Nevermind that it's a stupid idea, but hey, first things first.

That'll be because I don't speak idiot, or understand gibberish.

I'm relieved to say this will never happen. Stop players from playing a game they're paying for? Um, no...

I don't think a prison with active players would work. If someone scams you, blow up their ship, wardec their corp or find some other way to cost them ISK.

I do think that a prison full of all the banned players would be cool. One that you could walk through like the captains quarters. Have little tags on the bottom of the cage that says the date they were banned and the reason.

Have it set up like a "Silence of the Lambs" walk through the cages...

I feel that it is my duty to point out idiocy, stupidity and just plain trolling, you're guilty of all three, besides you asked for feedback and ideas, I've provided both. Now please insert another coin to continue.

We really need a new Troll Posts subforum.

So you are suggesting a game system where a player pays NOT to play with a character. I think not.

Will there be a jury of our peers?

You know scammers dont undock, right?

Not sure if serious or just trolling.

Stupid is an argument to be used with people who do not punctuate their sentences.

And it's in GD, obviously enough, to get more attention, because you know it will die in F&I. So be honest, for once.

So why can't I hire mercs to permanently lock you in space jail?

This is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard of in the history of stupid Eve ideas.

The counter to scammers sitting in stations is to not get scammed. Or scam them back.
This is EVE. Here, being a sneaky bastard is not punished by mechanics. You have to do that yourself. Work for your victory.

I've seen the idea of "space jail" brought up a few times over the years. Always has been shot down because you are preventing someone from playing a game they are paying for.

In my opinion this is nothing like scamming someone out of a plex, different issues in my mind.

I'm all for giving people mechanics for screwing someone over, but this just seems like a bad idea.

See my post above, please. And stay on topic.

Cats or GTFO.

Anybody else seeing a pattern here?

Not really. You just go back to your station, grab another ship and keep playing. Locking somebody out of the game for several days is something else entirely. Plus, while I'd love to imprison each and every last stabbed FW plex farmer, this mechanic would simply be abused to imprison anyone you don't like - the AI can't tell whether you just got scammed or not.

Posting in stupid Harry idea thread #213. Seriously man, take the hint. People try to tell you nicely(by eve standards) but you won't consider what anyone else has to say.

My favorite part is the "voting" possibility.

Like that will work any better than, you know, voting for CSM. I can just imagine how much fun that would be. Wouldn't even have to DDoS people anymore, the "prison" system will do it for us!

EVE Offline, pay not to play!

*new player logs in*
Newbro > hi guys whats up
Newbro > just joined and likin the game
Notification: you have been convicted by capsuleer vote of crimes including scamming and egregrious bumping. You are restricted to mining or remaining docked for the next seven days (06:23:59:59 remaining). A fine of 1,500,000.00 ISK has been levied automatically.
Newbro > f u guys im out
*New player logs out and goes to play something more fun*

But that's the problem - even the obvious scam mechanics aren't necessarily obvious to the computer. Maybe somebody just doesn't have the ISK to cover the buy order (margin trading scam), was aware that he was paying too much for a ship in a trade window or was rejected from a corp after paying a recruitment fee for a good reason. Otherwise I could just send you a few million ISK, claim you scammed me by not doubling it and get an angry mob to imprison you.

I agree that there should be an option to take revenge whenever you feel "wronged", but I assume you also agree that one man's need for revenge shouldn't enable the whole world to harass innocent bystanders.

Probably the best way to fight scammers is to teach new players about the scams. When I joined my first player corp they frequently told all new arrivals about different types of scams and how to avoid them. Maybe you could spend your time & energy on something like that instead? Once people stop falling for scams the scammers will disappear.

How about a 'force undock' feature so you can shoot the scammer?

Look! Another terribad game idea dumped in GD because the OP believes he is "special". .

I have something to soothe your pain.

Protip: Go set up your "ideas" in the correct forum area, and you won't get as many replies that hurt your feelings.

Honestly, this would be as fruitless as a war on drugs. All you would get is overcrowded digital prisons and start a corrupt for profit prison business that would spread throughout the virtual court system, CONCORD, and our elected CSM's. All to punish people who really weren't much of a detriment to our online society.

Look who's talking.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with how crime works, or how new players are treated. I'm saying a crowd voting system that affects other people is going to get abused all the way to VFK and back. And one like this would absolutely result in people sitting in Help chat ambushing new players with overwhelming imprisonment votes.

HarryGǪdonGÇÖt let these forum warriors get or beat you down. I for one appreciate your unique perspective thought and ideas and content and freshness you bring to the game and forums.

This is a hell of a lot better than the no stop trolling they can only offer thread after thread.

Keep fighting the good fight.

OP - just imagine an situation which is now and then very often - ganking.

What will prevent some gank squaq to vote to jail absolutely honest and not-scamming capsuleers?

If for example some corp with 500+ people will send corpletter to all with order to vote for XYZ, just because he dont paid "protection" fee?

Where is court? Where are judges?

Anyway, I think if is there some jail for scammer really set up (by some miracle or whatewer), than there should be also some detention facility for people who let them to be scammed, some lunatic-asylum kind of camp for this mindless people...

Horrible idea. The point is that this game is a sandbox. Players do what they enjoy doing, if that includes scamming and awoxing then that is up to them. That is what players love about EVE. How many thousand players joined the game after huge scams and thefts from in game were published on the internet? Ever wonder why that is?

You also have the issue of who would continue to pay for a game when they get stuck in a prison and can only mine. Most people don't want that and you would get a lot of unsubs.

I find it amusing that you post such a clearly ridiculous idea in GD claiming that you want feedback from a wider audience and then anyone who tries to point out its flaws and explain how it wouldn't work just gets shouted at for being unhelpful and then blocked. Ever heard of constructive criticism? In this case we are constructively telling you that this idea would never ever work and would hurt EVE.

I want your posting privileges stripped after reading this garbage. Go back to WoW or something.

Pull your head out of your arse Harry, your idea is silly, you've been told it's silly by multiple people and yet you still believe that your suggestion has merit.

I doubt we'll ever see a player jail because it would require a court. Without due process it could become arbitrary and there would be trolls using it as a weapon, kind of like the days of "aggro fu" before it was possible to blue a wreck and before crimewatch.


What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

I'm curious, could you make an example? As in "you could detect scam X by checking if somebody does Y and Z"?

I'm not adding words, I'm actually removing them and then distilling your meaningless drivel down into its purest form.

But that's a perfect example for something that's a valid game mechanic, margin trading is normal for honest traders.

Dude, too much Ultima online?

Yep, Ultima Online had perfect jail system :)

Also, most private servers had jails where it was possible to get out by chopping wood/mining etc :)

Im not sure is it legit to post such links here, but here it goes - http://runuo.theabyss.eu/?jail

What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps.

True:)

Player voting is a bad idea...
For example If I have 10-20 alts, I can Just throw 20 votes against someone, and no one will ever know :D That they belong to me :D

putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment

"What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspect somebody's account"

Because, you know, I'm comparing this proposed "jail" of yours to an account suspension, because it's really not much different.

0/10

I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.